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What dmaa and dmha may help with

Ranked by how strong the human evidence is — best supported first.

Best supportedBody compositionNot enough evidence· no source yet

Then, in order

About DMAA and DMHA

Synthetic amphetamine-like stimulants sold in pre-workout and weight-loss products, often under botanical names such as geranium or Aconitum kusnezoffii. Neither occurs meaningfully in the plants they are attributed to.

DMAA is the clearest case in the supplement world of a substance that regulators removed and the market kept selling. It was a nasal decongestant drug decades ago, reappeared as a supplement ingredient marketed as a geranium extract, and was linked to a series of serious adverse events — haemorrhagic stroke, heart attack, liver failure and deaths, including two US soldiers who collapsed during training, prompting a military ban and a US regulatory campaign that declared it an unlawful dietary ingredient and seized product. Analytical work established that geranium plants do not contain it in any meaningful amount, making the botanical labelling a fabrication. DMHA, or octodrine, is the successor compound sold on the same model, with the same regulatory position and less data.

Sold as
Pre-workout powder, Weight-loss capsule, Party pills, Labelled as geranium, Juglans regia or Aconitum extract
Standardised to
None; content varies wildly between products and botanical labelling is deliberately misleading — a product without this marker may not resemble what was studied.
Also known as
1,3-dimethylamylamine, Methylhexanamine, Geranium extract, Octodrine, 2-aminoisoheptane, DMHA

Regulation: US regulators declared DMAA an unlawful dietary ingredient, issued warning letters, seized products and won litigation on the point; it has also been banned or restricted in Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil and elsewhere. DMHA has received the same US warning letters. Both are prohibited in sport by the World Anti-Doping Agency. Products containing them nonetheless remain available, particularly online.

What the research used

The amounts, forms and durations published trials of DMAA and DMHA actually administered.

These are the amounts published trials administered — not a recommendation, and not a dose to copy. Trial participants were screened, supervised and given a characterised preparation. What is in a retail bottle is frequently not what was studied, and the amount that suits one person is not general advice.

  • Studied for Amounts found in products

    25–75 mg

    Not enough

    Per serving of pre-workout or weight-loss product

    Typical labelled amounts, where they are labelled at all. There is no safe established dose, no legitimate supplement use, and analyses have found content differing substantially from labels.

This is general information about food, not medical advice. It cannot diagnose, treat or replace guidance from a clinician who knows your history.

When it was taken

Each window says whether a trial compared it against an alternative, or whether it is convention and pharmacology. Most timing advice is the second kind.

None of the timings below were directly compared in a trial. They reflect how the research happened to dose, or what the pharmacology implies — which is not the same as a timing being better.

  • Before exercise

    Not enough

    Taken before training in the products that contain it. No timing research exists and none is warranted for a banned ingredient.

    Timing was not directly compared. This reflects convention or how the compound behaves in the body, not a trial showing this window works better.

The evidence in depth

Best supported: Not enough

What each association actually rests on, and the papers behind it. A rating describes the state of the research, not how promising the supplement sounds. How we rate evidence.

Weight-loss claims rest on stimulant pharmacology alone. No controlled trial supports them, and the adverse event record is what defines this ingredient.

Not enough evidence. Not enough human research to say anything useful yet.

No source is attached to this association yet, so it is rated not enough evidenceby default. It is listed because people commonly ask about it — not because there is evidence for it.

The few small studies conducted before the regulatory action measured haemodynamic responses rather than performance. There is no credible human evidence of a performance benefit, and the substance is banned.

Not enough evidence. Not enough human research to say anything useful yet.

View the 3 sources

Deep research mode adds each paper’s own conclusion and stated limitations.

Things to know

Interactions, contraindications and dose limits, most serious first. Concentrated extracts interact with medication in ways the whole plant does not, so this section carries more weight here than it does on a food page.

  • Worth knowing

    Banned, and linked to deaths

    DMAA has been associated with haemorrhagic stroke, myocardial infarction, acute liver failure and deaths, including two soldiers who collapsed during training, which prompted a military-wide withdrawal. US regulators declared it unlawful and pursued seizures and litigation, and many other countries have banned it. DMHA is the successor compound sold on the same model with the same regulatory status.

  • Worth knowing

    The geranium label is a fabrication

    Analytical studies established that geranium plants do not contain DMAA in meaningful amounts. The botanical name on the label exists to make a synthetic stimulant look like a plant extract, and the same tactic is used for DMHA with walnut and aconite names.

  • Worth knowing

    Still on sale despite the bans

    Enforcement has not removed these compounds from the market, particularly from online sellers and imported products. A pre-workout listing an unfamiliar botanical alongside a stimulant blend warrants checking the ingredient names against regulatory advisories.

  • Interaction

    Severe interactions with stimulants and antidepressants

    Interacts withMAO inhibitors, SSRIs, caffeine, other stimulants, alcohol

    Combining an amphetamine-like stimulant with caffeine, MAO inhibitors, SSRIs or other sympathomimetics compounds cardiovascular and neurological risk. Several reported serious events involved such combinations, sometimes with alcohol.

  • Avoid

    Prohibited in sport

    Both compounds are on the World Anti-Doping Agency prohibited list and have caused positive tests in athletes who did not know they were in a product.

Evidence ratings on this page: 2 not enough evidence.

Supplements are sold in the US without pre-market review of efficacy or safety. Nothing on this page is a recommendation to take DMAA and DMHA, or a dose to follow.